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The state of the discourse. (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2 to c/aboringdystopia

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas and Hezbollah are not the public of Palestine. So it raises the question if anybody cares. Netanyahu has made it clear to the rest of us he does not.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They look just like the public and fighting from where the public lives. What is Israel to do? Just accept getting massacred.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does getting massacred justify massacring tenfold? I'm pretty sure the United States emmisaries had this very conversation with the state of Israel.

The thing is, Hamas and Hesbollah see provoking Israel to disproportionate reprisal as a worthwhile gambit. They know Netanyahu is glad to enact genocide justified by retaliation to terror. But now the world will get to watch the horrors of war under Israeli jackboots. And it will be ugly, and the world may have opinions about the Israeli state doing ugly things. The general opinion from the international community is changing. Along with the US' unconditional support of a regional bully.

There are better ways. But Israeli state has rejected all alternatives, and is glad to throw stormtroopers into the mix.

And yes, the people of Israel, by a significant majority don't want an overkill response. They want a path towards peace. But the far right does like us vs. them dynamics to consolidate power. It's the same playbook Trump uses.

I'm not an expert. I don't know how to fix this, but the experts were shown the door, so here we are. 👀

[–] AnyProgressIsGood 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well that's war when you have superior firepower you're gonna get more kills.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

When Israel massacres civilians and massacres disproportionately, it then loses the peace. It also reveals its administration is too immature to deserve international support. The indiscriminate brutality of the IDF will reflect both on the the legitimacy of Israel and its allies, hence the conditions now added to US materiel support.

I'm very glad you don't have any responsibility in this or any state affair.