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Do not really understand how Android sandboxing works for system apps.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Everyone talk about GrapheneOS. But CalyxOS is very good too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Good" really depends on what you're after. Do not use CalyxOS if you care about security. They are significantly behind in implementing security patches, regularly. You are in some way more vulnerable with CalyxOS than regular android on a pixel because you would get security updates faster on pixel. Additionally, the network permission of GrapheneOS is a paramount security and privacy feature. Also, GrapheneOS takes over all location services requests even if you use google services, making sure that even if google services are installed, google only gets location info whenever the location request is for the google services, not all/any services or apps on your phone. There are additional points too, but CalyxOS, while I don't want to bash them, should not be considered a secure OS the same way GraphemeOS is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about DivestOS? Only option for a private system when you don't have a Pixel

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Divest os is much more free in terms of software freedom. They minimize binary blobs and keep everything clean. They also maintain mull browser.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also just incredibly well-documented

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And very good with security patches

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The only problem I have with it is one I have with Custom ROMs in general:

The Camera API to make use of all the lenses modern phones have. There is one single app that can somewhat hook into it for me to use my second lens, and it's extremely unstable to the point of being functionally useless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everyone talks about custom ROMs, it's so fucking annoying not a single one is supported on my Motorola g73. Next phone I'm getting is a fairphone, and I'll dual boot a custom Android ROM and postmarket OS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me, dual boot? Is that still a thing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

still a thing for postmarketOS, not regular Android

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I recommend checking this table out.

CalyxOS misses the mark imo. It does a couple things well (such as its improved Dialer app, and the ability for hotspots/tethered devices to be able to use the phone's VPN/Tor) that I hope to see other projects adopt, but beyond that, it just doesn't seem to stack up.

I'm not trying to bash them or anything because at the end of the day, they clearly have good intentions which I can respect, but I do hope they improve on a lot of things, because in its current state, CalyxOS just doesn't even compare to GrapheneOS or DivestOS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing which stop me to install Graphene is that I need some apps that I'm not sure will work with this os

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS has pretty much perfect app compatibility. I don't think I've ever ran into an issue in around a year of using it as my daily driver.

Most apps function without Play Services, but you may lose some functionality like notifications, and a couple apps do very rarely genuinely break. But, that's where Sandboxed Play Services comes in, which you can even put in an entirely separate user profile if you want to, so that you can still safely use those apps.

But yeah, I've personally had no issues with app compatibility. Even my bank app works perfectly on Graphene (didn't even require Play Services either!).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ok thanks! Let's try Graphene then

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago