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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] obinice 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, this is why I'm not too worried. The biosphere will take it all in its stride, even with mass extinctions it'll recover in every way, just give it a few million years.

From a human perspective, especially that of a single lifetime, obviously there's a huge amount to worry about.

But on the grand scale of things? Everything's going to turn out just fine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Being "not too worried" because the biosphere will eventually recover when billions of humans and other animals will be suffering in the meantime is a wild take, bud.

[–] Rat_Bastard 8 points 1 year ago

Life on earth isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but I happen to like a lot of the animals we're killing. Even if it's not the end, mass extinction still sucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The biosphere will take it all in its stride

Well, not this particular biosphere. Whatever can evolve to whatever conditions end up stabilizing will recover...although recover isn't the best word since it implies returning to the previous state. The Holocene has already been declared over, we're just in an abrupt transition now. RIP to everything else that the humans dragged into the gutter with them in their attempt to be a higher form of life.

Life will come back, maybe in similar levels of a new epoch of diversity in a hotter world, however given the time scale I think humans may have not only ruined their own environment but condemned Earth life to be definitely now tied to the lifetime of the Sun, as no life is ever going to get to a level to escape its final form.