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First panel: a poorly drawn figure with half-closed lids asks a smart™ thermostat "hey little man hows it goin?" Second Panel: the smart thermostat points with a large arrow at a screenshot of a graphic that reads "August Trends: Heating & cooling compared with last year", and shows zero hours more heating, 129 hours more cooling, with a small caption underneath that reads "On average, temperatures were 5 degrees warmer than August 2022" Third Panel: the poorly drawn figure with half-closed lids is shown with an unreadable smile in front of a semi-transparent image of a NASA article that reads "NASA Clocks July 2023 as Hottest Month on Record Ever Since 1880" Fourth Panel: the poorly drawn figure says "yea"
The facts became so undeniable that they're forced to accept that things are changing, but now they insist that the changes are absolutely not related to our environmental fuckery but are a natural thing.
"Humans couldn't possibly change the environment that much!" [gets in manufactured vehicle and drives an hour to work on a concrete roadway without seeing a single natural tree or animal]
Well, I'll have you know that concrete is very natural, so natural in fact, that you can grow it
I was so confused by "Insulate Britain" - I thought it's some weird satire and the showsection is called "Insult Britain". But growing-concrete guy was serious and that was a real news show - crazy.
Aye there's some reet proper creatures on British news shows. Scarily sometimes they don't get made to look quite as daft as that
The most obnoxious thing is that even if we were seeing natural warming, the greenhouse effect would still be a real thing we have directly observed on Venus and the dumbest bastard in the world should consider not making things worse.
Why not both?
What does this even mean? The warming trends coincide directly with the start of the industrial revolution. Even without direct evidence (of which there is plenty), we have centuries of data to show that this level of warming is statistically significant and does not fall within natural warming/cooling cycles, such as el nino/la Nina.
Maybe this isn't what you're trying to say, but I think it's extremely problematic when people use "fence sitting" arguments. It sounds like you're saying "oh well, we don't know how much warming is actually caused by man made causes... it could only be a little bit!" It's a completely false narrative but it also gives credibility to people who want to block climate progress, and I really don't think anyone should support that.
Humans are animals, everything we do therefore is a part of nature. "abnormal" doesn't mean "unnatural". just like the meteor wiping out the dinosaurs wasn't "unnatural".
Except we've kinda removed ourselves from nature by making medicine and ensuring even the dumbest of us survive.
You're not a part of nature when there's not much natural selection going on.
While I agree, it's far too easy for dumb people to survive and reproduce, it's all natural. Things like abortion and contraception are about the only unnatural things I can think of.
What, do aliens do abortions and contraception?
Or was it created and done by humans and therefore it’s natural?
Stay consistent at least.
So you agree, humans disruptions to natural events are infact natural?
How did you get that from my comment?
All human events are natural, thanks for correcting me.