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Deep breathing vs. buoyancy question (self.scuba)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by nottelling to c/scuba

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Pretty new diver here, about 40 dives, and looking for advice.

Just finished up a week of dives in Grenada, and made a point of paying attention to air consumption. Based on Internet advice, I focused on breathing deeply and exhaling completely, counting 4 seconds in, 6 seconds out. Doing this, my computer reported average SAC has dropped from about 0.8 to 0.5, and I'm not the one calling dives for gas anymore. This seems like a great improvement.

However, my buoyancy goes to shit when I'm doing this. Breathing more "normally", I can maintain a neutral depth with good trim. But with this more efficient breath control, I go up and down several feet with every breath. This actually makes it pretty easy to control when I ascend and descend, but obviously isn't great for most of the dive.

If I try to breathe normally-but-slow, I feel like I'm hyperventilating.

So what's the trick here? How do you both breathe efficiently and control your buoyancy?

I think I'm pretty well weighted, since I have no problem maintaining my safety stop with the shallower breaths.

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[–] leo_agiad 3 points 1 year ago

You are doing it right; it just isn't easy yet- you just currently need a little more air than that. Getting in the habit of slow breaths forces everything else. As you calm down and become more economica in your movements, your breath tidal volume will decrease, and so will the bob.

Also: deep breath does not mean "max" breath. The SPEED is the important part.

Everyone bobs a little at rest if they are maintaining a normal respiration cycle. You can limit the bob by lowering the size of thel breath as you stated above- this gets easier as you get more comfortable on less air, which is a function of both mindset and developing exonomy-of-motion and economy-of-thought experience. When you get well and truly bored on the safety line, you can get that heart bpm down below 60 and it gets easier.

THAT SAID:

We don't control buoyancy to a station keeping point except for pictures and interacting with structure. Most of the time, the ask is to "swim at about this depth" in which case you either take reasonable breaths and not exhale all the way to ascend, or take reasonable breaths and exhale everything to descend. I call it breathing "out of the top" or "out of the bottom" of your lungs.

Easiest way to learn in shallow water, btw, is putting your hands behind your back and doing "finup" planks with your nose to the sand. If your nose hits the sand, you goofed.

Final tip for dealing with going ,up-and-dowm on dives, adjust your angle-of-attack and head either a little bit down or a little bit up to counteract.