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Maybe that's extreme, but i could totally have imagined him chaining himself to oil refinery gates or similar shenanigans (at least when he was younger).
I was trying to make the point that if you believe in a politician's end goal, then the means are often justified. Trump's supporters (for the most part) don't want to see him weasel out of this by saying he didn't try to subvert the election, they want him to say that it was imperative for the country that he do what he did, laws be damned.
I doubt it's the best legal defense, but realistically he's going to either be re-elected and pardon himself or he'll drag this out until he dies. I don't see any world in which he's likely to wind up in prison.
There’s a massive difference between fighting for rights of the oppressed and having your sad wittle feewing huwt, and throwing a violent tantrum.
Bernie has historically fought for civil rights, and the rights of the underrepresented. Cheeto supreme and his idiot followers have nothing to be offended about so they fabricate drama. On top of the hate anything that isn’t white/me factor.
Not the same at all. Not even close. Good try though.
Oh absolutely agree 100%.
But if you do believe that Trumps end goals are laudable, then you are of course going to believe that it's justifiable that he'd break the law to achieve them.
There are, undoubtedly, millions of people in this country who believe that thwarting the peaceful transfer of power is a small price to pay for their authoritarian dipshit leader... and it makes sense that he'd play to that population.
That's a fair point, my mistake
This is true too. There’s pics of him being arrested back in the pay floating around the interwebs.
Who are you arguing with?
Do you not have nested comments? Are you unclear on how forums work?
If they're on kbin, I only recently - like yesterday - found the nested comments option. I've been using "classic" mode for months, where it is genuinely difficult to follow conversations. I could believe they don't have nested comments like you're asking and that the question was genuine.
Or they are just being obstenate like you implied.
you're unhinged and you're unaware of it.. if this news about Trump has you imagining Bernie doing crazy shit, you ARE the sickness.. this isn't Alex Jones' Discord server you're on here..
I read it as an analogy elsewhere that made a lot of sense to me.
I'd personally love to see trump in an orange jumpsuit for the rest of his life. However I genuinely believe that he'll manage to convince millions of people that his means justify his goal.
It's easy to look at the string of charges and indictments and assume he's unelectable, but a lot of people are going to look at this like it's a legitimate form of civil disobedience. I'm not, in any way, trying to suggest that his actions are comparable to "unlawful" climate protests or civil rights protests. But I do think he's posturing to make that claim and continue his narrative of persecution.
i'm just going to throw holy water on you and tell you to begone