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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Personally I'd rather see that 16 billion invested in a national high speed rail network. It would also create jobs, and such a network would help to keep Canada connected into the future where the emissions from plane travel will become steadily less defensible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Best I can do is spend your taxes subsidizing private corporations for things will still shit up the climate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is why there is a debate as to whether or not this is a democracy.

Policies and regulations are based on the economy and corporations and not on the will or even welfare of the people.

I'm not a right wing nut.... I grudgingly support this government ... but I'll still criticize it because we can and should do better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m not a right wing nut… I grudgingly support this government … but I’ll still criticize it because we can and should do better.

Absolutely. The government we have right now is the least worst realistic option, but no government is beyond reproach.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article is really confusing.

It seems like the government is saying the plant will create 3000 jobs and add $200 billion to the economy (well covering $16 billion).

But, if I'm reading it right the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO) says it will be 1400 jobs and add a "small" amount to the economy, though the amount will cover the costs. There was also something about the PBO not necessarily having all the info.

I wish they'd just lay it out with what the two sides are saying instead of just scattered through the article.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Article mentioned that there's some confidential information that isn't yet available to the public, and that information may be what's driving the differing estimates?

Regardless, aside from the money not being used for other reasons which may be more beneficial (up for argument of course), it seems it'll add jobs, cover the cost with time, and ultimately bring some benefit to the economy in both the estimates mentioned.

Sounds like a good thing

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The spin is real.

The great take-away news? Even worst-case scenario says

  • jobs
  • diversity of job market
  • covers the costs

Given the screeching simian response if Hair Guy blinks or balks at it, the course is clear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly can't tell what your opinion is. Who is Hair Guy? And which course is clear? Assume I'm ignorant and don't know who the players are or what people think of them...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You don't need to know whom the players are. Just focus on the ideas and decide on a champion if they can potentially execute a plan for their work area that is better for everyone and best manages the consolidated resources we've asked them to use for that goal.

Since Evil Milhouse and his crew still exist, I can see we're not doing that yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’d rather see that 16 billion invested in a national high speed rail network

I'd also like to see c$16b invested in upgrading, modernizing and regrowing a rail travel network with prices that compete well against faster airplanes.

But that's such an excellent goal, and an industry that pays for itself in revenue and carbon offsets that it doesn't need to come a the expense of the other plan. We don't need to choose.