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[–] [email protected] 30 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

The problem is when they start doing in stream ads, that will require something new. That said, people have been doing that with cable for a while, it'll be real interesting to see what clever stuff comes out to detect them in stream

[–] dual_sport_dork 23 points 21 hours ago

Audio is stupidly easy to fingerprint and identify. It would be glorious if we used the very same dumbass technology to identify ad segments as they use to robo-copyright-claim creators for including a 11 second snippet of a radio ad that's period authentic to the historical media they're reviewing. Just take that shit and turn it right against them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

This is something that would be a surprisingly good use case for machine learning. Fingerprint the ads by watching ahead in the stream, then skip that section.

Actually, I think older algorithmic methods will work. I think that’s how TiVo worked. The annoying part is you’ll have to wait a bit at the start of the video.

[–] psoul 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I assume something similar to sponsor block, some algorithm to identify ad segments and some user feedback to confirm. Unless I’m mistaken as to how sponsor block works?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Sponser block works via user input

People will watch the videos, report the segments that are sponser slots, and then when people watch the video they can upvote or downvote the accuracy of the report.

In stream ads would be a hard one to tackle because YouTube would likely inject them randomly into the stream to boost engagement (readas, prevent people skipping them easily).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

if they were randomly placed, then couldnt you have a sponsor-block type system where instead of the ad segments being marked and skipped, information about the video is externally stored somewhere (like perhaps a really low res screenshot of the video every couple seconds, or some number generated algorithmically by a frame of video), and the results should be the same for all users for the actual video part, but if the ads are placed randomly, the ad section will suddenly not match the data other users had, prompting the video to skip until it matches again (with a buffer included if they remove the ability to move forward)

[–] Kushan 2 points 12 hours ago

You don't need anything so complicated.

Take two copies of the same video, diff them and only keep the parts that match.

We can also build up a database of as signatures to automatically identify them without requiring a watermark - we already have the technology to do this for detecting intro sequences for skipping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

In that case the ads are video only, no clicking on them, including to skip or anything else. So it would be detecting that trying to change where you are in the video doesn't change anything (and exclusively playing via your 3 second buffer)

[–] lohky 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It'll require a new mother fucking video platform. We need to just collectively let YouTube die and move on.

[–] MrQuallzin 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Haven't heard anything bad about Nebula

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MrQuallzin 1 points 1 hour ago

What about it? It's directly supporting the creators

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lohky 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Then drown them out with enough non-Nazis, that’s what youtube does

[–] [email protected] -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago