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'We are all Gisèle': French women rise up against 'rape culture' during Gisèle Pelicot trial (www.usatoday.com)

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They line up in front of a courthouse in southeastern France, from morning to evening, and have gathered in the thousands in cities across the country. They hold signs reading, "one rape every six minutes," "not all men but always a man," and "giving in is not consenting."

They chant: "Rapist we see you, victim we believe you."

Women across France are rallying in support of Gisèle Pelicot, a 72-year-old reluctant icon whose husband is on trial in the city of Avignon for systematically drugging her and inviting dozens of men, 50 of whom are now his co-defendants, into their home to rape her over nearly a decade.

The shocking case has sparked what many women in France call a long-overdue reckoning over "rape culture" and systemic sexism in the way the judicial system handles sexual violence.

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[–] Ifera 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For an exercise, check out other articles posted about Gisele's case, and look for comments about male victims. Most people just post in support of her, or in hatred of her abusers.

The reason why this conversation exploded on the topic was the picture chosen for it. It is meant to be divisive, drive engagement and thus, ad revenue.

We're all being farmed for engagement, which takes away from what is important, seeking justice without looking at genders.

That picture is very triggering to the many, many victims of rape with female perpetrators, especially if the victims are male, hence the outrage.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah but I find it funny that those same people who say "well its not always a man" very often also say "well x is a minority therefore they shouldn't receive any representation whatsoever". In addition I would personally argue that most people here claiming to be victims are most likely lying (who knew people on the Internet could lie).

[–] jj4211 1 points 14 hours ago

That's one hell of a strawman to invent and ascribe to folks who have no whiff of implying minorities shouldn't receive representation.

[–] Ifera 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're either trolling, or too far gone. I am saying "It is not always a man", and I would never keep representation away from someone just for being a minority, or associate with people who behave like that.

And honestly, I find it appalling, that you jump to assume people claiming to have been raped here are most likely lying, and wonder if you would say that to a woman who claims to have been raped.

And if for you, that hinges on gender alone, you would have to be either extremely thick, or simply arguing in bad faith to ignore how sexist that is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Im saying that theres a difference between someone coming out in public and a bunch of random people on a forum who are attempting to make a point. Also my point about those people actively silencing minorities wasn't directed at you.