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Europe’s ‘Volt’ parties look to counter the continent’s nationalist turn (www.semafor.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Also it would probably come as a replacement for all other social security measures as is the liberal wet dream. This would reduce bureaucracy but it would also be a way of shutting people up, you don’t have enough money to get by? Well you get your UBI so it’s got to be enough, if it isn’t then tough luck I guess. The problem with Volt is that we don’t even know their exact position on this because they’re mostly just blurting out feel-good marketing slogans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

but it would also be a way of shutting people up, you don’t have enough money to get by? Well you get your UBI so it’s got to be enough, if it isn’t then tough luck I guess.

And the same thing cannot be said if you have means-tested welfare?

At least in the German discussion about this it's generally understood that it'd replace regular unemployment and disability payments, but not abolish things like say money the blind get because braille displays are expensive. Our social systems already work with averages.

That the payment is sufficient is already included in the "B" term, btw. In German terms it's supposed to cover the socio-cultural existence minimum: Enough to live and participate in society.