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[–] ChicoSuave 158 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If there is no fact checking, Kamala needs to be ready to ask why Trump nominated someone who isn't allowed in any Ashley Furniture store in the lower 48 states and Alberta.

[–] dejected_warp_core 1 points 5 days ago

I agree with the sentiment, but that tees up Trump to reply with something that normalizes getting banned from places. You know, the sorts of consequences for the actions of "fine people" everywhere. It doesn't even have to make complete sense nor be morally defensible; simple soothing words and support from perceived "leadership" is enough to make that play.

If your opponent isn't rational, and their base much less so, appealing to general reason is probably not going to work. Better to go on the attack and out specific weird behavior as, well, weird and not a part of the overall group (voters) dynamic. The key is to signal that there's something wrong with this kind of behavior with your time on the mic, rather than hope that your opponent will just screw up their rebuttal.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You... do know Harris (it's weird you used her first name) and Trump won't be at the Vice-Presidential debate, right?

[–] Jarix 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Not weird at all, it's her first name. That's what it's for

[–] Jtotheb 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Start looking at how many people say “Kamala” versus how many people say “Joe”, “Tim”, “Donald”, or “JD”.

[–] Jarix 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah no thanks. Its hard enough to get away from american politcs at a time like this as it is. Ive no interest or capacity to go out of my way to subject myself to more of it than i have to.

[–] Jtotheb 2 points 5 days ago

Okay! Next time someone implies US political discourse is getting a lil sexist, think to yourself, “Ive no interest or capacity to go out of my way to subject myself to more of it than i have to” instead of weighing in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hoe many Joes, Tims and Donalds do you know, and how many Kamalas? In the USA, it's a name that stands out. I'm sure you intend to imply that it's patronizing in some way, but there are oerfectly legitimate reasons to call her by her first name and you're not doing yourself any favors by just assuming that none of them apply here.

[–] Jtotheb 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m glad you understand what I’m implying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

It's not like you were subtle about it. But being understandable doesn't make it right. "Chickens build laser boxes" is also perfectly understandable.

[–] 4lan 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's a subconscious reduction of the person based on the idea that men are better leaders. I promise you'll start to catch on to it now that you know about it, it's weird as fuck.

[–] Jarix 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Only if you let it be. Its not weird to call someone by their first name. Especially since the term weird has become weponized.

Calling Kamala Harris, Kamala instead of Harris might be unusually in the situation....but its not "i like to fuck couches" or "ill invent overt lies if thats what i think i need to do" or "grab em by the pussy" etc kind of weird.

[–] 4lan 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

if it isn't weird why aren't you referring to the men as Joe, Don, Tim and James?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, we all know it's her first name, no one calls her that unless they have a personal relationship with her. I'm not even saying it has to be "Madame Vice-President" or anything so formal, but no one refers to the former president as "Donald" either...

[–] Jarix 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

R/theDonald

/s

Its unusual maybe, but with the current weaponization of the word weird its a point worth making. Its not weird to call someone by their first name.

Awkward in as elections go, but I think its worth pointing out how completely normal it is to use her first name when refering to her.

Its much like calling your parent by their first name. Its different, but not wierd in the new sense of the word weird

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Even back when it was in its heyday, people didn't say "Donald supports this", "Donald for President!", "I love Donald!!!", etc. It's kind of unearned personal familiarity...