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Starship troopers was made by the same guy who made RoboCop another movie whose message goes over people's heads. RoboCop is about privatization, police militarization, lack of government oversight, and corporate greed.
Like .. so many movies from that time period are grotesque warnings about "unfathomably" wealthy and powerful corps running the world. Pure scifi/fantasy at it's best, right?
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I watched robocop way too early and same with starship troopers. I totally understood the robocop message, but somehow not the starship troopers one.
As someone who grew up in a country which was invaded and fucked with by the u.s, I got starship troopers right away.
P.s: isn't it crazy that we grew up watching RoboCop (a hyper violent and gory movie) as kids, and they even used to make kids toys about R rated movies like RoboCop and Rambo. You don't see that anymore. They used to full on market those movies to kids.
I'm pretty sure most people think robocop or starship troopers is fantasy and as removed from their reality as lord of the ring for example.
A feature of indoctrination is that you don't see it on yourself.
LOTR is absolutely political IMO.
Yes, but not as directly as sci-fi can be. We won't ally with elves to fight orcs in the foreseeable future. We won't talk to ents or ask a wizard for help. Fantasy is metaphorical in essence. Sci-fi is descriptive, realistic. Yet people still treat it as fantasy.
Mhh... maybe not elves, but there is a current war that is often compared to fighting against orcs & Mordor. Although, I do not think dehumanizing even Russian soldiers is a good idea.
Yes, but nobody in the US will imagine the right is the orcs.
oh those people. That's maybe a bit harsh, even to orcs - although maybe not entirely inaccurate as orcs are basically the offspring of elves tortured for eternity. And I guess the political right often appears full of inner conflicts and contradictions, and trying to blame others for feeling miserable as a result of the weird values they pretend to follow.
I'm not sure RoboCop fits here. About the time ED-209 blows through that guy, I'm pretty sure everybody sees the corruption there. And you do spend the whole movie feeling bad for Alex and his family and you're actively rooting for him to exact revenge.
RoboCops old enough, I'm not sure most people newer than Gen X have even seen it.
People do see how bad it is in the movie. What I'm saying is that people do not believe anything in their reality is comparable. When I say that people see it as fantasy, I mean that they see it as an imaginary world with nothing comparable in their own world.
Fair
and what is totall recall about?
Memory, how memory affects reality and a person's identity and views, even if that's a false memory.
It's also about a person's desire to rise up against corporate corruption while a corporation stifles his desire to rise up. (Why rise up against oppression when you can just implant a memory that says you already did)
The second part of my meaning is of course if you subscribe to my belief that the entire movie after he leaves work and visits Recall is a false memory, since "hero saving Mars" is one of the recall memory options.