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For context: Stickermule sure had a hissie fit when Trump got grazed. But they sure don't seem to have any problems with it happens to anybody else.

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[–] morphballganon 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There was a version of this with Biden months ago. It probably counts as satire and is protected by the 1st amendment guarantee of freedom of speech.

[–] EleventhHour 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The first amendment isn’t really a guarantee of free speech so much as it’s used as a foundation of how far speech will be tolerated— there are limits to the 1st Amendment. Sedition/treason, incitements to violence, fraud, and many others.

But, since our justice system is punitive rather than preventative (for the most part), it’s best to keep in mind that freedom of speech in America does not always translate to freedom of consequences for that speech. You can (and many do) say what you want - and “speech” has been interpreted to mean many forms of expression - but you may find yourself run afoul of either a few restrictive laws or, worse, massive societal consequences.

[–] MsPenguinette 13 points 1 month ago

Tho it's worth pointing out that threatening to kill the president is one of the most illegal forms of speech in the US. To the point that it could be illegal to say it alone in a room to yourself out loud

[–] Anticorp 4 points 1 month ago

there are limits to the 1st Amendment. Sedition/treason, incitements to violence

And this includes all of those.

[–] atrielienz 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Doesn't mean it can't be reported as a credible threat. An investigation will determine if it's protected or that it isn't. But that doesn't stop someone from being put on a list, nor does it protect them from being investigated. Which is my point at any rate.