331
Mark Kelly now heavy favorite to be Harris’ running mate as he blasts JD Vance on Ukraine
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 24 Jul 2024
331 points (93.2% liked)
News
23143 readers
4923 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Guy is 60. I'm becoming a fan of Beshear.
*Sigh. I'm saying pick the person who can run and win in 8 years.
Kamala is 59.
This guy:
Is a decorated vet
Is an astronaut
Is in a state that is a must win and makes it easier to win.
He checks a ton of boxes.
He also grows a bad ass mustache.
He directly opposes Medicare for all. Opposes the green new deal. Supported expanding oil drilling.
I'm just sayin' if you're gonna list positives it's only fair to list accurate negatives too.
I will argue time and time again, opposing Medicare for all is NOT a moderate position, it's a right leaning position.
He still supports a public option, he just opposes M4A because it would end existing employer-provided healthcare. Not everyone who opposes M4A is right-leaning, sometimes they just don't think that this particular model is better than other public option models.
The Green New Deal faces lots of opposition from those who agree with the sentiment, citing it as misdirected, expensive, or overly ambitious. He does generally support the move to renewables.
Additionally, he supports expanded drilling, in parallel with a move to renewables, to reduce our oil imports. We can't just snap our fingers and transition to 100% renewables overnight. It will be a gradual process, and reducing our dependency of oil imports is very possibly a pragmatic step in that process.
Policies are rarely black and white. It would appear most of his positions which seem, superficially, to be negatives are held for relatively nuanced reasons. We could do worse.
It wasn't expanded as most people understand it. It was supporting a round of permit auctions in the already drilling Gulf of Mexico.
Sixty isn't old. He's old enough to have experience.
It's 5 years under the typical retirement age, I would absolutely consider that "old".
Maybe that should be retirement age. Young people of today will be lucky to retire at all.
When you can't even be elected president until you're 35, I don't think 60 is a terrible age.
65 is retiring early.
I'm thinking get the person who can run and win in 8 years.
I think at this point it's more important to pick the candidate that increases the chances of victory. Trump won't be in any shape to run (or likely even alive) in 2028 and hopefully MAGA will have died along with him.
Maga will not die with Trump. Instead it will splinter, and become a lot more chaotic. Even moreso if that happens at a time of strength for the movement.
I expect the shattering will wound the movement. With Trump, they have a consensus leader and model. Everyone else will fight each other to fill the vacuum.
Yup. MAGA is just the Tea Party's child that's come of age.
Whatever offspring MAGA presents to America will be even worse.
Sixty is old. Let's stop normalizing boomer politicians.
That’s ageist bullshit. Seriously. 60.
If he were shooting to be president from 60-68, sure, great. But teeing up a run from the VP slot means he's looking at 68-76. That's starting the most important job in the world past retirement age.
If he were some genius lawmaker with big new ideas, maybe you excuse that because they're uniquely valuable, but nothing seems like he's a big ideas man. You don't need to push limits just to preserve the status quo.
VP doesn't have to be about setting up a Presidential run. Harris was VP, but lots of Presidents weren't a VP. Can just be aimed at shoring up the current ticket.
Cheney is the only VP in recent times that served with a 2-term president and didn't go on to get the nomination and run for president. Biden was supposedly selected because Obama didn't think he had a run in him so he'd be dedicated to the administration, but ended up running anyway.
Sixty year olds are usually sharp and deeply knowledgeable. I think we should demand better for literally the most powerful person in the world though and in this case I'm less pissed off at sixty year olds in general and more specifically pissed off that we're in a death grip of neoliberalism and politicians that aren't planning for the long term.
America has no attention span - it is generally making decisions for today that are driven by people who won't see the full consequences of their decisions... we need more people who actually give a shit about what the world will look like in twenty or forty years. And to be perfectly fair, some of our eldest politicians really fucking do care and I'd include Biden in those ranks... but we seriously need to change course.
It’s not ageist. 60 is old for an agile brain imo.
Cognitive decline can begin as early as age 45. The youngest you can be to be elected president is 35. Should we only have a 10-year window in which people should run?
https://www.bmj.com/press-releases/2012/01/05/cognitive-decline-can-begin-early-age-45-warn-experts
65 is oldest you can run. Second term only if ran again. So oldest would be 69-73. I’d prefer that tbh.
I would agree with that. Commercial pilots are forced to retire at 65, why not politicians and judges?
Can’t wait to see what you guys do with your politicians who treat entire populations the same. Some more.