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[–] return2ozma -5 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Or people could actually go out and tell others to vote.

I don't see just changing candidates doing anything; in fact, you'd probably get a 'where were all the primaries?' backlash

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I voted in the primary. There was one dude on my ballot. Does that sound like a fair election to you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Me too. I voted for Palestine. Didn't win.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Did you pass a petition for another candidate?

[–] retrospectology 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about just getting people out to vote, people don't want to vote for Biden. This isn't apathy, they see him as unfit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Critically, in a two-party FPTP situation, you'd better think he's less fit than Trump if your advice is to not vote Biden.

[–] retrospectology 7 points 3 months ago

I'm not advising anyone, I'm stating a simple fact; Biden is showing all the signs of losing because people don't like him and he's too old.

He is de-energizing the party. Him. Biden is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Approximately 100% of Biden voters would vote for his replacement. A non-zero amount of voters would also vote for this person. At this point sticking with Biden is conceding the election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Or people could actually go out and tell others to vote.

Sure. This has been the strategy for a while, and has resulted in likely Biden voters becoming less engaged due to genocide and the general percieved cognitive decline as of late, and Trump voters becoming more engaged with events like the failed assassination attempt.

Biden voters are largely going to end up holding their nose, while Trump voterd are largely going to gleefully show up in droves, if conditions continue.

I don't think this is a useful strategy, and will be a repeat of 2016.

I don't see just changing candidates doing anything; in fact, you'd probably get a 'where were all the primaries?' backlash

If the majority of people support swapping out Biden, I think you'll find that it won't result in fewer voters. The DNC could also organize an emergency Primary, too. Doing nothing is handing Trump the win on a silver platter.

[–] return2ozma -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So then we're screwed already. Oof.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

It's called 'learned helplessness.'

They tell you that you're screwed and you believe them.

I don't want to be one of the people who lays down and does nothing because someone posted something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

“We”, he says

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You need to fucking go

[–] troglodytis 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I don't think Biden should have run for a second term, that's not the scenario we live in. He is running, no viable Dems ran against him in the primaries. He will be their nomination. Anything else is almost Fantasyland.

Now what ya gonna do?

[–] return2ozma 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Watch democracy burn and drink a nice whiskey?

[–] troglodytis 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Happy to be incorrect. Though a year ago would have been much better

[–] return2ozma 0 points 2 months ago

Buckle up! The wild ride begins!