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Its an interesting idea, I have a party I believe in but for the disfranchised labour, Tory voters who'd otherwise give they're votes to green or what ever flavour of right-winger. I do however see media coverage of none voter being used as a vehicle by hinge groups far right and what not as none voters are not a cohesive group rather a random cluster with a plethora of reasons to abstain from voting a party.
So I would caution anyone who'd vote none or who'd dispense they're vote to a protest party to instead research and maybe there's a party that will match they're ideals and needs. Whether that is of a libertarian, socialist, communist , or feudal flavour.
We don't all have the privilege of even the pretence of "choice", and have tory or red tory to "choose" from, and I refuse to give my vote to either.
I also think that voting none looks far more serious at this point than voting for a small party that is only standing in a handful of constituencies if that, and who are mostly perceived as a bit of a joke (and should be, because they will never be allowed any power by the existing institution, and will never change that by playing within its rules).
The media will twist anything and everything against the left, no matter what we do, it's literally what it exist for - to uphold the status quo. Using that to discourage people from voicing their refusal to participate in this bogus system serves the same purpose.
My response to that would be labour will be a hell of a lot better than any other realistic option.
The ship is sinking and you're complaining about the quality of the lifeboat. Sure it might not be the best lifeboat in the world, but it's the only lifeboat currently attached to the sinking ship, so it's really the only one worth talking about.
Just a shame the alternative vote system never went through for Westminster despite being used in the rest of the country
Labour are getting in without a doubt although we shouldn't settle for less evil, maybe the left will move to a left party after labour shows how much they care for the working class
1983…?
I'm so sorry, I meant 1992.
Okay dave
Please don't call me Dave.
Not a problem fellow user
Thanks. Sorry for not being clear earlier, especially with giving the wrong year! I was writing long text on another thread. I was referring to Labour losing the general election having been a long way ahead in the polls before it was called. It's not a forgone conclusion, it depends strongly on how people choose to use their vote.
Ah yes I did wonder what the date was about.
It definitely seems more likely labour then any other party, Tories are jumping ship to labour but you are right, its not finite till the votes are counted.
Are you voting?
I agree with all of that, and yes, definitely, I always do.
Voting for a small party is effective in that it shows their policies are popular. Brexit basically happened to try and steal votes from UKIP to Conservative. Voting for a small party, even if it's unsuccessful, is definitely effective and more worthwhile than spoiling. Nobody knows how to please spoilers, but the likes of Labour could figure out how to steal green voters, etc.
I understand completely tbf. And the leftist party's are very much splintered. My thought though is get benches, make small changes and hope the general public notice the leftist officials campaigning for real change.
Also funding your party and being a member, running stalls is very helpful.