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Also anyone can tell me the difference in performance between the white one and the blue one??

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Select is the one exclusive for Amazon, my understanding is that it’s meant to help with counterfeit ones, as only Amazon has them. Very good cards either way.

Not sure how it compares price wise right now, but look at the Amazon basics ones too: they’re made by the same company that bought Lexar and makes the emmc inside the 64gb Deck. Mine has been going strong for about a year now. Speed wise they’re essentially the same: the standard used in the Deck tops out at 104 megabytes per second, so any claims of extra speed are just marketing.

[–] ekZepp 3 points 11 months ago (8 children)

BTW is normal that the free space on the 64 Steam Deck is actually 40-something gb?? I mean 20gb of OS?

[–] NoXPhasma 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Additionally, to what was already said, the size of storage is giving in Decimal (1000B based) while after formatting it is often shown in Binary (1024B based), which makes the storage look smaller, which it isn't.

And the most of the storage is coming from software stored in your home, not the OS itself. The OS only occupies around 3.3GB on the 5GB root partition:

/dev/nvme0n1p4  5.0G  3.3G  1.5G  69% /
/dev/nvme0n1p6  230M   41M  173M  19% /var
/dev/nvme0n1p8  466G  115G  351G  25% /home
[–] SuperIce 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It should be noted that the way you listed the partitions misses the dual (A/B) install method that the deck uses. There are 2 identical size partitions for root, var, and EFI. When an update occurs. The system installs the new update on the inactive set of partitions and then tells the UEFI to use the other set on the next boot. That doesn't matter too much for 512GB models like your's, but the extra ~5.5GB for the redundant partition layout can be significant for 64GB models.

[–] NoXPhasma 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've used df -h and that showed only this three partitions. I've only skipped the tmpfs mounts.

[–] SuperIce 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The df command only shows mounted devices and filesystems. You can use lsblk to show all block devices and their partitions. To format it more nicely to show the labels for each partition, you can use these options: lsblk -o name,mountpoint,partlabel,size.

This is the output from my deck without the microsd card:

deck@steamdeck ~> lsblk -o name,mountpoint,partlabel,size
NAME        MOUNT PARTLABEL   SIZE
nvme0n1                     476.9G
├─nvme0n1p1       esp          64M
├─nvme0n1p2       efi-A        32M
├─nvme0n1p3       efi-B        32M
├─nvme0n1p4 /     rootfs-A      5G
├─nvme0n1p5       rootfs-B      5G
├─nvme0n1p6 /var  var-A       256M
├─nvme0n1p7       var-B       256M
└─nvme0n1p8 /home home      466.3G
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Its on the low side but still within reason. Its not just an OS, it's an OS, a full steam install, a web browser( actually 2 of them because steam also packs an embedded browser), a desktop environment, HD animations, HD wallpapers (several of them) and it adds up quick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yep. The os isn’t tiny, plus there’s all sorts of extra stuff. For example 1gb is gone on every Deck because that’s reserved for swap… and then shader cache sneaks in and depending on the game you might run out of space in no time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Just buy an nvme SSD, the one in the deck is really easy to replace (if you have a good screwdriver, like in the ifixit kit/ other phone repair kits)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't even know why they have a 64GB version.

This is the one I use. I believe you want to look for the "A2" SD card. No issues with speed or reliability yet. I play ges like Elden Ring and RDR2.

https://a.co/d/7pFQpEB

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Loss leader to increase market share most likely, since Valve loses money on the 64gb model

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I suppose that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Not everyone is playin triple A titles, for someone like me who prefer old or/and 2.5D games (which are usually under 10Gib), the 64gb variant would be mostly fine.

[–] PlasticExistence 1 points 11 months ago

Shader cache takes a big chunk of the available space

[–] SuperIce 1 points 11 months ago

IIRC, it was 20GB of OS at launch, but they shrunk it. Now it's a little over 10GB.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Came here to advise running F3 to test the sd card, and make sure it's legit.

Turns out the Steam Deck does it on it's own when you use the steam UI formatter, Beautiful

[–] paraphrand 4 points 11 months ago

That’s awesome that the Steam Deck does a check like that.

[–] NoXPhasma 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They are both exactly the same, Select is just a rebrand of Amazon. Don't buy Select unless it is cheaper. And yes they work fine, have the Evo Plus 512.

[–] ekZepp 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Really?! That's why the specs looked identical. Great info, thank you👌

(This social is getting better than Red💩 to find useful info 😆)

[–] NoXPhasma 3 points 11 months ago

I was at the same spot once and wondered where the difference actually is, as there is a rather big price difference sometimes. When I searched, I found rather quickly that this is indeed just rebranded, and it was even confirmed by a Samsung support person.

[–] SuperIce 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why shouldn't they buy the select? Isn't the whole purpose of it being exclusive to prevent people from getting fake cards?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

samsung has a tool that can verify the legitimacy of cards. if it's counterfeit send it back

[–] NoXPhasma 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Amazon is unable to make sure you got no fake Plus if they are the seller, how in the world would they make sure the Select is no fake?

[–] SuperIce 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Amazon is the only seller of the Select cards. For the Plus, anyone can be a seller, so there could be fakes being sold as well. If the Plus is being sold directly by Amazon, then yes, it should be a legit card and there should be no difference.

[–] paraphrand 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s a bummer that the situation is essentially a tax that guarantees not being hassled by counterfeit goods.

“Well, I have two options. Here, this one here that’s white. And here’s another one that’s not white.”

“What’s the difference?”

“Well, this one I guarantee is what it appears to be.”

“And the other one?”

“Well, that one is probally what it appears to be. But how can I know? I’m just the one selling it to you.”

“That seems fucked up.”

“Please understand that we take counterfeit goods very seriously.”

“Right….”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Would that apply for "sold and shipped by amazon" items?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I have had good luck with these. One has been in my Deck for 6+ months, with about 1/2 my library on it. Load speeds etc. have been decent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I've got 3 of the 512GB Evo Plus ones on rotation in the Deck, for my Steam library/game-hoarding-addiction.

I got one of the first batch of UK Steam Decks, and have been running those SD cards since whenever that was. No issues so far.

[–] NabeGewell 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I got the top one. Using it alot for a year now without issues, its where ive installed all my games to