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[–] Reddfugee42 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Jesus Christ google, how much money are you spending to foil 0.000034% of your user base

[–] Crashumbc 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The purpose, is to keep it difficult enough that the "honest" person doesn't get the idea to start doing it.

Same concept as putting a lock on your front door. It's not to stop thieves, it's to stop the average person from getting the idea to "just take a quick look".

By occasional going after workarounds AND making it public news. Your average computer user thinks it's not worth the hassle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

If they don't want honest people considering it, maybe they shouldn't raise the price by 80% in a single price change.

I paid for YouTube premium when it was first available. They guaranteed the price would never change as I was a first adopter. Then they did. Then they did it again. And then again.

Google can fuck off. They have all the money in the world and they need to extort the people who helped grow their business.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

so they prefer that users use adblockers?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, no, they prefer people pay the subscription cost they set in each region.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which they've shown they aren't willing to do...

Personally, YT premium is my only subscription I have, and wouldn't really have any others if money wasn't this tight. But I was paying before this recent anti blocker war, I prefer YT Music just because of the way it handles a bunch of the music remixed by seperate and probably not "official" artists. And with how much youtube I watch on mobile instead of my PC, messing with blocking wasn't very appealing to me, since the jump from YTmusic to full premium is less than almost any streaming sub.

But I have always watched/backgroundnoised a lot of youtube, so its not that much of pain. Realistically, this was bound to happen eventually, hosting that much content hasn't really gone down in costs as quickly as most tech overhead. But its a fairly complex line item, not just hardware & facilities, but all the law office hours related to copyright log is an ongoing and probably still growing cost for them and since they are not Disney thats a real cost I'd imagine.

As a side note, it just reminds me how shockingly unaware I am of how much they must value our personal data, that it only just now became worthwile to fight blockers with this much effort and PR/image depreciation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

how much they must value our personal data, that it only just now became worthwile to fight blockers with this much effort and PR/image depreciation.

You got it, on the nose.

Shadow boxing is always good practice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know what it is, just didnt know my comment meant I was preparing to fight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my comment meant I was preparing to fight.

You're not.

Google are thou hence the shadowboxing reference.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ahhhhhhhh

Uh

Except I can't think of a company that's large enough to be multi-state who hasn't made almost every decision in the last 10 years the wasnt the most short-sighted option regardless of how much more value would be made otherwise. No corporate strategies look anything like Shadow Boxing to me, they all want to just rape and pillage for a short of a time as possible the same they're more Bandits then Shadow boxers

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but on one hand the price they want I'm not willing to pay, but if I could get it for less then I'd consider it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like the service isn't quite right for you, then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's only worth what people are willing to pay. Already have Spotify anyways and not a fan of googles app killing tactics, learned that the hard way a couple times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like the monopolized industry isn't right for the users

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What exactly is the monopoly here?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Video content? YouTube's made it all but impossible to compete with their free offerings, for the cost of server upkeep alone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How has YouTube made it impossible for another video hoster to allow free viewing with ads?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The cost of server upkeep alone

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Luckily they can't do this in the EU. As an EU-citizen, I have the right to subscribe in Romania, for example, and pay no more than a Romanian would.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Newpipe and its forks for the win.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It sounds kinda illegal. Can Coca-cola stop me from going to Denmark to buy for danish prices and claim I have to pay Norwegian prices?

It’s directly comparable to buying danish subscription and using the service from a danish exit. If my data originates in china and are vpn-ed to Denmark they have the same cost on providing me service as anyone else in Denmark

Edit: I’ve never been to China, but it’s like really far away from Denmark.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the EU, this is illegal. As an EU resident, you have the right to subscribe to any service in another EU country.

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[–] Illuminostro 14 points 3 months ago

Its too fucking expensive for what you get. Throw in access to all movires and TV for $15, then maybe I'll subscribe.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I can watch Youtube without ads using an adblocker or NewPipe. Why anyone buys Premium is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Smarttubenext. I even install it on every hotel TV I use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Could be one of the many reasons such as ensuring their favorite creators get paid for their views and end users not being tech savvy enough to know about ad blockers and NewPipe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can donate. No reason for Google to get most of it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tubular is a fork of NewPipe with SponsorBlock and ReturnYouTubeDislike integration. LibreTube is another great option, which uses the Piped backend. They also have a Lemmy community, and you can check them out on Mastodon: https://fosstodon.org/@libretube

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The article is only based on a handful of accounts from reddit, but it would be quite funny considering how many people I've encountered who do this and think they are geniuses or morally superior because they don't use an ad-blocker. Let's see how they feel after a fee hike. :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't really understand who you are getting at here. Everyone I know uses this combined with regular ad blockers. Anyway, once they figure out how to properly inject ads into the stream blocking is going to get really hard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I would not pay anyway. This is a principled position after I was shown a fraudulent advertisement 10 times in one evening (which used children with cancer to manipulate emotions)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Congrats, your subscription has been canceled

What subscription?

[–] Reddfugee42 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The ones mentioned in the headline?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yesss, I know ;)

[–] Nino477 4 points 3 months ago

Oh there goes my back up plan for server side injection ads

[–] TheBigBrother 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok I'm using revanced anyway..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (7 children)
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[–] Aeri 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I tried to get brazillian youtube premium or whatever and it just didn't work.

[–] lemming741 4 points 3 months ago

I did a South American country once too but the payment processor has a snafu and it stopped working after the 2nd month. I just spun up a personal invidious VM and moved on with my life.

[–] FuryMaker 1 points 3 months ago

Isn't a cheaper subscription better than no subscription Google?

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