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TLDR Wagner returning to positions after deal is met with the Kremlin. Wagner will sign a contract with the Defense Ministry. All charges against Prigozhin will be dropped.

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[–] Badgernomics 54 points 1 year ago (10 children)

"When you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die."

I am very sceptical of this. Lukashenko brokered a deal? He's a Putin puppet, why would Prigozhin cut a deal with him? What would that deal look like? Does Prigozhin become head of the MoD or Putins designated successor? He's right there outside Moscow, he has the leverage, why would he blink?

Putin called him a traitor, an enemy of the state, why would Putin back down from that point, he already looks weak, why look weaker via a U-turn? Prigozhin must know he's a dead man if he backs down, he knows the play book, why would he trust in the deal?

Was the whole thing a psy-op to give Putin an out? Was the voice recording that is the ultimate source of all this a Russian State propaganda play? Is it a play by Wagner to buy time to consolidate his forces before he moves on Moscow? But then, he has to be the one to move fast and hard...

Whatever is going on, we don't know. Next 5-24hrs will be key.

[–] pinwurm 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

He’s a Putin puppet

A common misconception.

Lukashenko has been around longer the Yeltsin. Putin, Medvedev, and Putin 2: Electric Boogaloo. I would bet money that he'll be around after Putin's demise as well - whenever that will be.

As much of an idiot lackey as he seems - he's always been to squeeze what he wants out of Russia while squeezing from the West as well. Visa relationships, for example - are a good metric for international diplomacy. Americans can travel visa-free through Minsk Airport for up to 30 days. Think about that. And also - he's managed to survive his own coup/revolution attempts. And yes, with Russia's support - but he's still done it.

The war put him in a precarious balancing act where has simultaneously play nice with Moscow without getting Belarusian troops actually involved in battle. It keeps him in power.

I'm not saying Luka is smart or cunning. But he's maintained power for 30+ years. He's experienced in it.

why would Prigozhin cut a deal with him?

Nobody knows.

But I'm speculating Belarus offered him something very special. Maybe Moscow will oust Shoigu, and Belarusian 'diplomacy' will be seen as legitimate.

A distracted Moscow would be a premium opportunity for Belarusian activists and freedom fighters to organize another revolution. Last night, Lukashenko flew his family to Turkey. So... we can speculate as to how confident Luka was feeling.

Was the whole thing a psy-op to give Putin an out?

The "out" would've been for Putin to recall troops to Moscow to 'deal with the Wagner problem'. It would've given him an out and he would've seemed competent to do so.

Afterwards, he can say "its clear need to fix problems in the Russian military before we can help our lost brothers in Ukraine" and call an indefinite ceasefire. Then funnel money into military development indefinitely, like a fascist does.

But that's not what's happening... Wagner might just go back to fighting in Ukraine later today.

The news is happening at lightning speed. Nobody knows what's going on. Absolutely wild times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

We definitely live in interesting times. I really can't even guess at what might actually be going on or about to happen; will this just fizzle out, or will things go sideways (even more) in Russia?

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