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I use gmail but I'm looking to find another free provider to move. I've considered proton or tutonota but neither seem to support thunderbird without payment.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, you're paying for increased privacy in money and (imo) security.

I begrudgingly stick with gmail every time I consider otherwise, and having one of the world's biggest IT security teams keeping it safe is one of the reasons. It's unfortunately how much they get to harvest my data, but I suppose I'd rather them than a scammer.

[–] Sosi 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see how an encrypted service like TN or PM would be less safe than gmail. Quite contrary. Leaks so often come from insiders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been through quite a few security audits, and had to steel-clad quite a few secure systems. Nothing is better than having a dedicated security team for those things. The bigger the better. There's a reason we teach junior developers not to write any "secure" code, even as simple as a login system, on their own.

I can understand why someone might "not see", but as someone who has seen security done wrong enough times by well-meaning small businesses, I trust the company with the bigger dedicated security team with the better-skilled experts.

What's left is the fact that "everyone will want to hack gmail, but nobody would try to hack TN or PM". Fair enough. But as that taught us growing up: "security through obscurity isn't".

I don't fault people who prefer using these smaller "privacy" companies. But please don't fault people who prefer to stick with the companies who stand tall through constant attacks.