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A federal judge in West Virginia has ruled that the state corrections agency can’t force an incarcerated atheist and secular humanist to participate in religiously-affiliated programming to be eligible for parole.

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[–] paddirn 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Meanwhile, getting a DUI in some places still means that you can be forced to attend religious-leaning AA meetings.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Unfortunately, all AA is religious. The 12 step program they use inherently assumes you surrender to a higher power. There has been some push back to make that higher power into something you personally consider higher than yourself, but the intention is 'God'.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's incorrect. AA is explicitly spiritual, not affiliated with any religion. Everyone gets to choose their own path, there is no endorsed religion.

[–] CountZero 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But it's still magical thinking. You said it yourself, "spiritual".

The government shouldn't be forcing anyone to believe in magic, even if the details of that magic are undefined.

The fact that it can be essentially anything just proves the point that it's meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I were ever forced to go to AA my argument would be that the only higher power I recognise is Vince MacMahon.

"Son of a bitch!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any dictionary will help you with the difference between the two.

[–] CountZero 2 points 1 year ago

spir·it·u·al /ˈspirəCH(əw)əl/ adjective 1. relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things. "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare" 2. relating to religion or religious belief. "the tribe's spiritual leader"

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