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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] capital 0 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

Corps make and sell what we buy.

Arguments like yours seem to condense down to “I won’t change until a corp forces me to” which makes no sense to me.

[–] UsernameHere 2 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Tell that to the marketing team BP hired to say the same thing you’re saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

@UsernameHere @capital one of the ways I contribute as an individual is by not giving my money to BP.

[–] UsernameHere 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What’s more realistic? Getting billions of people to change or a few dozen companies to change?

Fossil fuel companies have spent a lot of money making the world dependent on them. Some of us may have the luxury of not giving them money but the majority cannot.

Fossil fuel companies know that. That is why they paid a marketing team to shift the responsibility onto the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@UsernameHere

I mean what can I do? I can vote with my vote and my money, or I can do nothing. I'm not going to do nothing.

One vote matters about as much as one person's carbon emissions. As much as possible, I'm going to contribute to the solution, with urgency.

If I were alone, it wouldn't matter. Luckily I'm not alone, and I'm contributing to the momentum, as much as my privilege allows.

[–] UsernameHere 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’m not saying don’t make personal changes.

I am saying it is impossible to fix the problem with individual change and fossil fuel companies know that.

And we can prove that they have paid marketing companies to convince the public that the impossible solution is the one we should choose.

The only viable solution is for a small fraction of the individuals to force change by creating political and legal pressure for systemic change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All change is individual change, big change is lots of individual change bundled together.

Vote, protest, make climate-conscious life choices, give your money to corporations and organizations that are helping. Do all of that as much as you are able, which is different for everyone.

Voting is important, but so is the rest of it. Do it all.

[–] UsernameHere 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, do it all.

But know that the fossil fuel industry is paying marketing companies to convince individuals that their carbon footprint matters. Because it benefits them to do so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does matter. It's just not the only thing that matters.

[–] UsernameHere 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Don’t tell me. Tell the fossil fuel industry and their marketing firms.

They are the ones that disagree with you.

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